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Indian ‘Journalist’ Slams Gurbaksh Singh Than Admits to Receiving Information from ‘Agencies’

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Indian ‘Journalist’ Slams Gurbaksh Singh Than Admits to Receiving Information from ‘Agencies’

After 42 Days of his Hunger Strike, the Indian Media has been almost entirely absent – until now.

In an article published by the Hindustan Times, journalist Pawan Sharma paints an entirely one-sided picture. From labelling Gurbaksh Singh a radical and militant to calling him a liar to questioning the authenticity of his fast, Mr. Sharma provides an unbalanced piece that disallows anyone from Gurbaksh Singh’s team an opportunity to voice their concerns.

Mr. Sharma attributes his claims to an “anonymous” government source that suggests the hunger strike by Gurbaksh Singh is a “miracle” or as Mr. Sharma suggest a farce and a lie.

Fortunately, in a video posted on facebook, when confronted by a Canadian medical practioner, Dr. Avtar Singh from British Columbia, the journalist is asked how he can verify the validity of his claim that Gurbaksh Singh has only lost  4 kg’s of weight, without knowing his starting and current weight.

Mr. Sharma who initially refuses to answer the question after being asked repetatively finally concedes that the information he received has come from the Government Agencies and Doctors.

In India, the term agencies is often used to describe the secret service and intelligence bureaus that work diligently to suppress minority rights and movements.

Have a look at the article and listen to a recording of the conversation below.

HINDUSTAN TIMES ARTICLE:

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JOURNALIST ADMITS TO RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM AGENCIES

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  1. StopHatred January 11, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    I don’t know what to say? What am I expected to say about all these irrationality in India? If I was denying it I would understand your argument but heck I have not denied it. You amuse me because I understand your problem with blind practices in Hinduism and I have yet to deny it but even after asking you have yet to give one good solution. Fine, go ahead and kill all Hindus who don’t agree to your practices, I guess? Is that what you are saying? Is that what you want to do? I really don’t know what to say here. So I will not respond to all your problems with Hinduism again because I don’t even know what we are debating and what am I supposed to do about it.

    Yes, I said crept in because spiritual progress is gone otherwise if spiritual gurus were still around and saw people doing total blind practice they would’ve corrected that in society and texts if necessary. Hindus texts have evolved, they are not like GGS that it can never be refined. All texts are refined and evolve.

    “Some irrationality? Whatever you found above is “Some Irrationality””

    Ok, I guess you are saying entire Hinduism is irrational. If you are not saying that and some parts of Hinduism is irrational, what else but “SOME” should I say? Again, I don’t know what to say to you anymore about your problems with Hinduism. I think you should just go ahead and kill all Hindus, go ahead pick up your sword and everything that does not set according to your belief of Sikhism, you should destroy. That is all I can say to you about it.

    Regarding Buddhism and Jainism: Ok, I admit, some abuse and killing of Buddhism was done by Hindus but most of the reason for decline of Buddhism was social reasons and that article says that. Buddhists never made social entrance and hence without social fabric they disappeared. Ok, some Jains were also killed, by a Buddhist king but they were killed.

    Regarding Bhindranwale; ok fine, Joshi is Hindu so we cant believe him. Can you admit that he said they will kill nirankaris and he would weight the killer of some nirankari in gold?

    This debate started with one thing; that Hindus have not harmed you before or aftr 1984 and even during 1984 it was political riot. You have not admitted anything in your entire debate/argument with me. Whoever in world has time to read it, will read it and know who has been more truthful in this debate. Good bye, best of luck and no hard feeling but only disappointment that I thought you were intellectual!

  2. Anonymous January 12, 2014 at 3:14 am

    1“Fine, go ahead and kill all Hindus who don’t agree to your practices, I guess? Is that what you are saying?”

    This is what has been to Sikhs by contemporary rulers since ages. And mind it, the only Sikh emperor who has existed in last 500 years, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, is known for giving equal rights to all the religions. Research it or i will happily give many links.

    2. “ Hindus texts have evolved, they are not like GGS that it can never be refined. All texts are refined and evolve.”

    Funny. Will you name the EVOLVED version of your texts ? Gold if kept for ages, remains gold. So is with truth. Truth never needs refinement.

    3. “Ok, I guess you are saying entire Hinduism is irrational.”

    Never said or meant that entire Hinduism is irrational. My contention is that MOST of what is practiced THESE days is irrational.

    4. “Ok, some Jains were also killed, by a Buddhist king but they were killed. “

    Not just by a Buddhist King. The case of Buddhist King (Ashoka) is different.

    SOME BUDDISHTS were killed, SOME SIKHS were killed. SOME JAINS were killed, SOME shudras were exploited, SOME christians were killed. Still we are the GREATEST. Super Power, most humane and exemplary in giving religious freedomd!!!!!!

    And you call these big numbers ‘SOME’. great.

    5. “kill all Hindus, go ahead pick up your sword and everything that does not set according to your belief of Sikhism”

    Words are not to be trusted, action ought to be. Sikhs so far have never killed anyone innocent. Not even Muslims who massacred Sikhs beyond imaginations.

    6. “Can you admit that he said they will kill nirankaris and he would weight the killer of some nirankari in gold? “

    Not Nirankaris!!!!!! Yes One Nirankari. And he was the one who ordered gun fire on peacefully protesting Sikhs. Don’t manipulate.

    7. “ This debate started with one thing; that Hindus have not harmed you before or aftr 1984 and even during 1984 it was political riot”

    I never denied that 1984 was a political pogrom (don’t call it riot), meant to win the favor of IRRATIONAL and blind populace of Indian state. And this plan delivered. Congress won the elections just after 1984 with the historical majority. (Don’t forget it happened just few years (4-5) after congress was on the verge of extinction from Indian political landscape.

  3. StopHatred January 12, 2014 at 4:35 am

    “This is what has been to Sikhs by contemporary rulers since ages.”

    So on one hand in same post you agree that riots were political but on other hand you are saying Sikhs were killed for their practices? You talk or rational thinking?

    “Funny. Will you name the EVOLVED version of your texts ? Gold if kept for ages, remains gold. So is with truth. Truth never needs refinement.”

    Dude….This is known fact. That is why Hindus have so many beliefs. On day one of so called religion of ‘Hinduism” did not have so many different beliefs. Some people held on to old stuff, but new stuff came on. This why we have so many shastras, puranas, and what not.

    Geeta is considered the official book of Hindus today. Why don’t you find irrational beliefs in Geeta?

    Like I told you, I have been to gurudhwara many times. I have heard your kirtan, ardas, path and all. You have your own religion no doubt but much of what I have heard is same man between our religions.

    “Never said or meant that entire Hinduism is irrational. My contention is that MOST of what is practiced THESE days is irrational.”

    No one has denied that to you. As far as I am concerned in our ancient books there is mention of kalyug(I don’t know if you know that but you can google that if you don’t). I call today’s Hinduism in its kalyug and it is in its darkest stage. What do you expect when stupid RSS and bajrang dal etc hijack our religion?

    Our religion has always been about dharam and karam. Entire geeta is dedicated to that. Geeta is considered a summary of Upanisad and vedenta. Read that if you get chance, as far as I know Sikhism I know you will not disagree with that. Let me tell you this. Vedas are the parent books of Hindus. There are 4 vedas and Vedas are divided in to 4 parts. The first part is samhita – hymms to praise the lord. The second part is Brahmanas – these are rituals and prayers. Aranyakas – worship and meditation and last part is called Upanisad or Vedenta(End of Vedas). – These are the philosophical teachings of Hinduism and really summary of first 3 parts. Geeta and Geeta is further summary of Upanisads/vedenta and this is what Hindus are suppose to believe.

    I am very sorry that instead of the last two parts Hindus today believe in first 2 which is 1000-1500 BC old and in reality I believe it is even older. So once again I ask you, do you have any solution? Because I agree with you but I do not know how to change that? Heck you have actually mentioned less irrational practices of Hinduism. lost Hindus have actually created temples for Amitabh and Rajnikant. But thre is nothing I can do.

    “SOME BUDDISHTS were killed, SOME SIKHS were killed. SOME JAINS were killed, SOME shudras were exploited, SOME christians were killed. Still we are the GREATEST. Super Power, most humane and exemplary in giving religious freedomd!!!!!!”

    Yes we are if you compare us to any other part of the world. But let’s not compare it to other parts of world. Let’s keep discussion to India only. How many people were killed and let me ask you, if there was Khalistan, would there never be a case where non-Sikhs will not be killed? Come on you are starting to put standards that is not humanly possible. There will always be some idiot but overall, we have been very tolerant society to different beliefs and best example of that is rise of Sikhism. Aside from those hill kings that aligned themselves with Mughals, tell me how many Hindus opposed the rise of Sikhism? In fact, normal and average Hindus joined Sikhs in their belief and temples. Tell me that is not true, that is true even today mister.

    “Words are not to be trusted, action ought to be. Sikhs so far have never killed anyone innocent. Not even Muslims who massacred Sikhs beyond imaginations.”

    I agree with you, this is true. I was not talking about Sikhs. I was only pointing at you, while you are Sikh you keep talking about irrational beliefs and I keep agreeing with you but you still keep going on and on. What else am I suppose to say?

    “I never denied that 1984 was a political pogrom (don’t call it riot), meant to win the favor of IRRATIONAL and blind populace of Indian state. And this plan delivered. Congress won the elections just after 1984 with the historical majority. (Don’t forget it happened just few years (4-5) after congress was on the verge of extinction from Indian political landscape.”

    Dude…Hindus see the games of govt and congress also. Why do you think AAP won in delhi? Why? Because everyone is tired of these politicians. And yes, it was to win over populace but the majority of polulace was not irrational but victim of false information and the false information prevailed because there was only one channel and one radio channel, both owned by govt and at that time congress was in power in govt. There were many news papers which also followed the govt and the ones who did nto disappear in thin air. I hope you know that.

    So stop blaming the irrational practices of Hindus and making that connection with what happened. It has nothing to do with irrational practices of Hinduism. It wa all govt controlled. You have yet to tell us that while you make that connection and blame all evils in India on Hindus and their irrational practices, even the ones orchestrated by govt on hindu religion. What is making Muslims and Sikhs riot in south Asia? Tell me. Now where are your references and evidence that you love so much? Why are you shying away from answering that when you are so bold on blaming Hinduism for all evils in India?

    The problem started from power struggle between akalis and congress which in turn started taking sides on nirankaris and Sikhs(and as far as we are concerned nirankaris are also Punjabis and it is a issue between you Sikhs and nirankaris and we have nothing to do with it). Bhindranwale which was congress guy initially become angry with politics and became the angry young man…..and according to you he did nothing wrong in his life. Man that hides inside your most sacred building with weapons did nothing wrong. Govt was 100% wrong from day one no doubt but man that hides inside your most sacred temple with weapons on one of the most sacred days of your religion did nothing wrong. From his speeches you can easily make out that he considered hindus as weak and non-martial race or something but he did nothing wrong. but Bhindranwale’s anger was valid and in a way I have respect for him up to a point but I am sorry his actions say he was definitely not a sant, a person who considers another man inferior(which goes against Sikh religion). Person who hides inside a temple like a coward. He kills nirankaris or praises other people who kills nirankaris who are blamed of burning your sacred text of which there is no reference given by you and I don’t see anything in google.(Maybe a man like you who loves references can provide a reference and evidence of nirankaris burning GGS?). I am sorry this man was no sant. Again, govt was 100% wrong but Bhindranwale was not 100% right. You will never be able to convince me of that.

    Whatever man…You sure are very rational. I am giving up on you and this will be my last post. I wish you could see some truth yourself. I see the truth and I accepted many times but you have yet to see one truth and have accepted nothing. So I agree, you are rational and you could never be wrong. You are always right. Be happy and no worries from my side. No hard feelings. Peace!

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